nba国王怎么那么垃圾 国王为什么烂了这么久
How are the Kings this bad? They have been a lottery team since 2006.
国王为什么这么烂?他们从2006年以来一直是乐透区球队。
It seems almost impossible to have lottery picks at your disposal for 12 years and still be absolutely terrible - how can a franchise be so incompetent that they've finished far below .500 for 12 years in a row?
一支球队连续十二年手握乐透签,却依旧烂得非常彻底……这种情况应该是几乎不可能的呀。一支俱乐部怎么能如此无能,以至于他们的常规赛胜率连续十二年远低于50%?
[–]Netsaydee123 1001 指標 21小時前
For those interested in what they've done with their lottery picks in that time:
Spencer Hawes, Jason Thompson, Tyreke Evans, DeMarcus Cousins, Jimmer Fredette, Thomas Robinson, Ben McLemore, Nik Stauskas, Willie Cauley-Stein, Georgios Papagiannis, Skal Labissiere, Bogdan Bogdanovic, De'Aron Fox, Justin Jackson, Harry Giles, Marvin Bagley III
给感兴趣的人科普下国王这十二年来用乐透签都干了些啥:
斯宾塞-霍伊斯(07年第10顺位)、贾森-汤普森(08年12顺位)、泰瑞克-埃文斯(09年第4顺位)、考辛斯(10年第5顺位)、吉默-弗雷戴特(11年第10顺位)、托马斯-罗宾逊(12年第5顺位)、本-麦克勒摩(13年第7顺位)、尼克-斯陶斯卡斯(14年第8顺位)、威利-考利-斯坦(15年第6顺位)、乔治斯-帕帕扬尼斯(16年13顺位)、斯卡尔-拉比西埃(16年28顺位)、博格丹诺维奇、达龙-福克斯(17年第5顺位)、贾斯汀-杰克逊(17年第15顺位)、 哈里-贾尔斯(17年第20顺位)和马文-巴格利(18年第2顺位)。[译注1]
[译注1]:2016年国王和太阳交易,国王将第8顺位选中的马库斯-克里斯交易到太阳,换取太阳当年首轮第13顺位、28顺位、2020年的次轮选秀权和博格丹诺维奇的签约权。
2017年国王和开拓者交易,国王送首轮第10顺位选秀权,得到开拓者今年首轮第15顺位和第20顺位选秀权。
[–]CelticsSon_of_Atreus 892 指標 20小時前
They also selected IT with the 60th pick.
凯尔特人球迷:他们还曾(在2011年)用第60顺位选了小托马斯。
[–]Suns TankwagonHalfawake1 596 指標 20小時前
And let him go inexplicably. Was confusing even back then
太阳球迷:然后莫名其妙地把他送走了。就算在当时,他们的这个操作也挺让人摸不着头脑的。
[–]KingsTWK128 329 指標 13小時前
Oh, it's explicable.
Pete D'Allesandro was a fucking idiot and shipped off IT before firing the first coach we had that had Boogie's trust.
FUCK PDA.
国王球迷:嚯嚯说起这个,还真是有据可循的哦。
皮特-德亚历山德罗(国王前总经理)就是个特么大傻B,送走了小托马斯后,又解雇了迈克尔-马龙,这可是第一位得到考辛斯信任的我王教练啊。
干他良!
[–]KingsResetSmith123 53 指標 17小時前
Pete D'Allesandro, GM at the time, didn't like that he was short. Brilliantly he decided to replace IT with notable giant Darren Collison.
国王球迷:皮特-德亚历山德罗是那时的国王总经理,不喜欢小托马斯个太矮。于是他机智地决定用身高显著的巨人达 伦 科 里 森取代了小托马斯。
[–]KingsTWK128 45 指標 13小時前
And spread the Cousins-IT beef rumors to justify his personal decision.
国王球迷:然后散布考辛斯和小托马斯不对付的谣言,来为自己的个人决定洗X白。
[–]HawksNiethy 140 指標 18小時前
Spencer Hawes turned out to be a decent role player.
Thompson lasted like 5 seasons.
Evans had a phenominal rookie year then dropped off.
Cousins was amazing.
国王这些乐透签后来都怎么样了:
霍伊斯成为了一个还凑合的角色球员。
贾森-汤普森大概只呆了5个赛季就混不下去了。
埃文斯打出了一个现象级的新秀赛季后表现开始跳水。
考辛斯非常棒。
Fredette was overhyped.
Robinson never learned the NBA game.
McLemore is a disappointment.
Stauskas was OK.
弗雷戴特被吹过了头。
托马斯-罗宾逊从没学过怎么打NBA。
麦克勒摩让人失望。
斯陶斯卡斯还凑合。
Cauley-Stein has turned out to be serviceable.
Papagiannis is a project and hasn't panned out.
Labissiere hasn't put everything together.
Bogdanovic looks like a future role player.
威利-考利-斯坦可堪重用。
帕帕扬尼斯是个淘金工程,目前还没淘出金子来。
拉比西埃还没整明白。
博格丹诺维奇看起来是一个未来的角色球员。
Fox is intriguing.
Jackson might be a bench player at best.
Giles we don't know yet due to injury.
Bagley III might turn out to be a worse version of Cousins.
福克斯有点意思。
贾斯汀-杰克逊可能最多也就是个替补球员。
由于伤病,哈里-贾尔斯的发展暂不可知。
马文-巴格利可能会成为一个低配版的考辛斯。
[–]76erscolemanj74 207 指標 16小時前
Stauskas has not been ok.
76人球迷:斯陶斯卡斯还到不了“凑合”的地步。
[–]Trail Blazers_Quetzalcoatlus_ 162 指標 13小時前
Stauskas is a pretty great example of why the Kings suck.
斯陶斯卡斯是说明国王烂的很好例子。
1. The owner forced the team to pick him, seemingly because he made a bunch of threes out of 100. The team even decided to film this meddling and create a documentary to show their own incompetence.
1.国王老板强迫球队选了斯陶斯卡斯,好像是因为他(试训时)投100个三分进了不少。国王当时甚至都决定把老板这一干预举动拍成纪录片了,好让大伙看看他们自个的神机妙算(其实是无能)。
2. He had three coaches in his first season. The third of those coaches was George Karl, who was a train wreck.
2. 斯陶斯卡斯新秀赛季,国王换了仨主教练。而第三个教练是乔治-卡尔,简直是场灾难。
3. Boogie Cousins bullied him relentlessly and tried to fight him multiple times. Boogie has to be the worst star to have as your leader by far. Instead of helping out the rook, he supposedly tried to ruin him.
3. 考辛斯没完没了地霸陵斯陶斯卡斯,好多次都想要揍他。考辛斯绝对是球星中最烂的领袖,第二名连他的车尾灯都看不着。考辛斯非但不去帮助这位菜鸟,而且(据说)还想要毁了他。
4. He was part of one of the dumbest trades in the history of the NBA. The Kings sent him, filler, a first, and swap rights for two drafts so they could sign Rondo for a season.
4. 包含斯陶斯卡斯的那笔交易是NBA历史上最烂的交易之一。国王把他、一些添头、一个首轮签(2019年)和两个首轮签互换权(2016和2017年)送了出去,这样他们就有空间签下……一年的隆多。
So Stauskas represents monumental failures by the owner, coaching staff, star player, and front office. That's brutally incompetent from the whole organization.
所以,斯陶斯卡斯有着里程碑的意义,他代表了国王老板、制服组、明星球员和管理层是多么的失败。整个俱乐部从上到下都能烂成这样简直凶残。
[–]KingsKangzAteMyFamily 256 指標 21小時前
Where to begin:
Well the Maloofs were sabotaging the team and trading assets for straight cash. It wasn’t until 2012 I think when we got Vivek. But he has no idea what he’s doing and he wants to run shit like he would run one of his tech businesses.
国王球迷:你想我从哪说起呢?
从前国王老板马鲁夫兄弟说起吧,他们一直在把球队往死了整,用球队资产直接换来现金。一直到2012年国王换了新老板维维克-拉纳戴夫,这才算告一段落。但这个新老板吧……他都不知道自己在干啥,他的经营方式跟自己管理科技公司的方式没什么区别。
Ever since I moved back to Sac I’m 2013 and started paying attention again in earnest, this is what has happened:
自从2013年搬回萨克拉门托后,我开始重新认真关注国王。然后呢,国王干了这些事儿:
Trade Isaiah for a trade exception and rights to a foreign player who never came over. Fire the only coach Cousins liked because the GM at the time didn’t like him and found a BS excuse to can him Trade unprotected FIRST ROUND PICK FOR CAP SPACE Cousins trade
用小托马斯换来了一个交易特例和一个后来从未登入NBA的外国球员的签约权。解雇了考辛斯唯一喜欢的主教练马龙,就因为当时的总经理不喜欢他,找了一个鬼扯的借口给他炒鱿鱼了。然后,国王为了薪!金!空!间!交!易!走!了!不!受!保!护!的!首!轮!签!再然后怂走了考辛斯。
In general, bad asset management, even worse talent evaluations. So many picks of players who weren’t NBA material and a refusal to acknowledge that. Shit, Ben McLemore is back on the fucking team.
总而言之,垃圾的资产管理水平,以及更糟糕的人才评估水平。很多选秀挑来的球员都达不到NBA级别,而且还打死不承认。艹,MLGBD麦克勒摩又回这支烂队了。
And then there’s this: a complete lack of understanding of the modern NBA. A roster of all bigs and guards with no decent wings above 6’5.”
They’re just idiots
还没完呢:国王完全缺乏对现代NBA的理解能力。整个名单都是大个球员和后卫,却没有身高超过1米95的靠谱锋线球员。
他们就是一群傻X。
[–]Kingsbbgun91 123 指標 20小時前
Malone's firing was the lowest point
国王球迷:解雇马龙是国王垃圾操作的最低谷。
[–]KingsBlackPulloverHoodie 112 指標 21小時前
I'm just happy we still have our team.
国王球迷:我们国王球迷现在还有主队支持,这我就已经很开心了。
[–]KingsSuperherosusan 166 指標 21小時前
Maloofs literally tried to get us bad enough to send to seattle and then Vlade being bad at first. Our roster is actually looking pretty good now though.
国王球迷:马鲁夫兄弟当时是实打实地想把我王弄得烂透了,好把球队搬到西雅图去。然后迪瓦茨一开始的操作也很糟糕。不过,我王现在的阵容还真挺不错的。
[–]Cavalierspericles123 111 指標 21小時前
The trade that cost you your #1 pick next season is literally the 2nd worst trade in the last 25 years in the NBA - and Billy King can tell you about the trade in the #1 spot on that list.
那笔使你王付出了这个赛季首轮签代价的交易是如假包换的NBA过去25年第二烂的交易。想知道第一烂的交易是啥?问问比利-金。
[–]Mavericksbuffalobill41 89 指標 21小時前
Might honestly be worse as far as just how blatantly stupid it was at the time, Brooklyn basically had everything go wrong after the other trade.
老实讲,国王的那个交易可能还更垃圾。因为那笔交易在当时就已经蠢得无可复加了。
篮网主要是做了那笔交易后事事不顺。
[–]PacersTheBoilerCat 493 指標 21小時前
Incompetent owners, more incompetent owners, and an assembly line of incompetence in the front office.
无能的(前)老板们、更加无能的(现)老板们,以及能排成长队的无能管理层。
[–]Pacersdeadprezrepresentme 104 指標 20小時前
Say what you will about the (necessary) fiscal decisions about the roster the Pacers have (had to) made over the last 20 years but at least the FO has been on point!
步行者球迷:过去的20年里,步行者关于阵容所(必须)做出的(必要的)薪金决定有好的有坏的, 你们随便怎么说都行,但最起码我遛的管理层不昏庸啊!
[–][SAS] Malik RoseGolai77 103 指標 21小時前
The Timberwolves made the playoffs for the first time since 2004 last year.
I don't think it's a coincidence that these teams are both in the West. The Suns missed the playoffs a few years ago at ~48 wins.
马刺球迷:上赛季是森林狼2004年以来首次打入季候赛。
我觉得这些(烂)球队都在西部可不是个巧合,太阳也多年没打入季后赛了,上次最接近季后赛还是他们拿下48胜那年。
Boogie was/is a great player, but he didn't help the culture, yet he was good enough to keep the Kings picking out of the top 5. SAC has been through some shit over the last decade+, it feels like they finally have a young core in Fox/Bagley/Hield/Giles and whoever else I'm forgetting. They have a chance to be a playoff team in a year or two.
考辛斯以前或现在都是一个优秀的球员,但是他对球队(赢球)文化的建设没啥帮助。但同时,他又足够优秀到可以让国王摸不着前五选秀权。在过去的十多年里,国王是真的经历了一些糟心事。现在我感觉他们的福克斯+巴格利+希尔德+贾尔斯+其他某个我忘记名字的球员的年轻核心阵容终于有点眉目了。国王在一两年内还真有机会打进季后赛。
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